"See," says Grif, "it's weird because we don't have talking animals, but we have all this stuff we've made up about what animals would be like if they talked anyway."

"Like... one day some guy decided elephants would be scared of mice, and I guess everybody agreed and then it's in all the cartoons. And cats and dogs are enemies."

That reminds him of something.

"Do you guys say "fighting like cats and dogs" or is that not a thing?"

None of these details are important, but they're somewhat interesting. "Somewhat interesting" conversations have sustained Grif through years of the soul-sucking boredom between stupid firefights with Blue Team. Talking at length about things that don't matter much is comfortable.